On Thursday the 24th at the G-20 summit in Pittsburgh, PA peaceful protesters were met by Police force when they refused to leave, invoking their right to peaceful assembly and protest. According to sources who were on the scene the police used rubber bullets, tear gas, batons and even LRADs in an attempt to force protesters to disperse. For those unfamiliar with the LRAD it is an acronym for Long Range Acoustic Device. These bad boys are capable of emitting sounds audible over 2 miles away, it doesn’t take a scientist to understand the damaging effect a noise of that volume can have when it is aimed at a short range target, in this case peaceful protesters. Of the protesters, who were wrongly called anarchists, over 60 ended up being arrested.
Is anyone awake out there? Are we paying attention yet? Our people are being assaulted by “authorities” for raising their voices and invoking the inalienable rights that the constitution did not grant (we are born with them) but was designed in part to protect. We are being treated as terrorists and it’s not because we hate America or we want to harm our fellow countrymen for political or personal gain but because we are standing up and saying “NO!” to the tyrannical rule of the elite, fascist oligarchy that is now in place to rule over us. It’s time to wake up before we end up being dragged out of our houses in the night to secret prisons for crimes against the government. It is clear now that dissent will be met with force. We need to take the power back before the cost becomes a river of blood.
WAKE UP! WAKE UP! WAKE UP! WAKE UP!
Think For Yourself and Question Authority before you lose the right to do so. Your silence will help to enslave you further than it already has.
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:22 pm
IP Law Head, I applaud your passion but you have the same problem that these protesters have…a lack of clarity and focus. Have you ever participated in these protests from the inside? I’ve marched with them and tried to lead, but this is the true “Melting Pot” of America. They all have individual agendas and individual issues. They aren’t focused so their actions quickly spiral into chaos. I love the fact that the police are willing to crack some heads here. They give all protesters a bad name. Try to sing a song with them and they can’t carry a tune. Everything seems to focus on Viet Nam and Baby Killers. They need to get organized or give it up. I know what I’m talking about. I made the White House a “Poet-Free Zone.” Whenever I was on sight, I had a Presidential Welcome. The Secret Service would find me and ask me what I wanted. I met the Dali Lama there but we didn’t fist bump.
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:12 am
Firstly baco, yes I have. I think what you dealt with in your experience was the exception and not the rule because I’ve found these people to be very well organized, educated and clear on exactly what it is that they are protesting. There are countless videos available of their protests and if you pay attention they DO sing songs, start chants and those acting as front men and spokes persons do in fact have valid and clearly stated reasons for their outrage. I don’t lack clarity or focus, and I’d challenge you any day to a debate, we could use internet radio if it works for you. There was NO focus on Vietnam or baby killing, perhaps you were protesting with the great failure known as the hippy movement? There actions didn’t spiral in to chaos, chaos was rained down on them in the form of tear gas, rubber bullets and batons. Even if they were terribly organized and had no focus, which is and was not the case, how in the hell can you defend the police’ actions of perpetrating violence on non-violent protesters? A few isolate incidents of vandalism, which are to my mind at the very least a bit fishy, is no reason to start attacking American citizens for raising their voices. I’m sorry but all those police officers deserve a swift kick in the ass and removal from their posts, not a round of applause. It’s no wonder you “love the fact that the police are willing to crack some heads” as you are part of the misguided right who think that these “tea parties” are effecting change on anything real. Go ahead, oust Obama, then just wait for the next puppet for you to vote for and it should all be alright, right? Wrong.
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:16 am
Head, for almost 2 years I played the Liberal Shill to a Far Right Wing Radical on the air. I make a few comments about your lack of focus and instantly you fly off the handle. Hit a dube man. My perception of the protests that I supported and witnessed can be quite different and we can still both be correct. I want the police to “Crack Heads” because of the vandalism and the potential for serious violence. A pre-emptive strike is okay by me because some of these people are up to no good. I haven’t figured out what your angle is yet. As far as a debate, you’ve got to be kidding. You can’t handle the truth!
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:00 am
Well, I didn’t see my response to your comment as flying off the handle, in terms of debate it’s easy for you to say some off the cuff comment like “you can’t handle the truth”. Well, bring it, if you hold so much information that I “can’t handle” let’s rock. “The potential for serious violence”? What do you call police attacking protesters? That goes beyond potential into actual. The vandalism, which as I said happened in a few isolated events and could well have been set up to discredit the movement is hardly a reason for pre-emptive assault. Pre-emptive strike is the language of Homeland Security, the American Gestapo. My angle is the angle of defending liberty against tyranny, taking the power back for the people, not the elite, standing up and dissenting, asking questions and sharing the truth that is revealed, ending the slavery known as the Federal Reserve System, exposing the lies being fed to the people by their bought and paid for “Government” and the bought and paid for corporate media. How much more clear does it need to be? Quit taking our liberties away under the pretext of “safety”, end the bullshit “war on terror”, stop using false flag attacks to get us in to illegal wars, stop locking people up for minor drug offenses, quit dismantling the constitution that was put in place to defend our rights as human beings, stop answering our protests with an iron fist shoved down our throats, remove control of the global economy from the off shore banking community that has it completely wrapped around it’s dirty little finger, awaken the unthinking majority that just assumes that what they are being fed is the truth of the matter. Need more clarification?
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:03 am
and it’s L P Lawhead as in Lucas Paul Lawhead, Detroit born American Citizen.
October 4th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
L P it really doesn’t matter if I know your real name because your argument has so many holes. Let’s Rock? I call a policeman attacking a protester within his rights until proven guilty. We as a civil society grant police with specific powers that border on suspicion and I’d rather see one act forcefully with doubt than to be buried with certainty. I’m not for a police state, but what you seem to be arguing in favor of is anarchy. You are obviously a very educated person, but that education has you brainwashed into believing actions are being taken to discredit protesters just so they get a beatdown. If they weren’t there, there would be no vandilism. Which comes first-The Vandalism or the Beatings? Liberty isn’t taken away…it’s given away by acts of stupidity like vandalism and foolish protests. I listen to the police when they give instructions.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:52 am
Actually, according to people who were at the protests, the vandalism didn’t even occur at all until AFTER the police (who were in a force more than double that of the protesters) arrived on the scene. We do grant the police certain powers and I also tend to follow police instructions granted they aren’t out of line or in violation of my civil rights. Police are put in place to PROTECT and SERVE, not OPPRESS and MAUL. I’m sorry baco, I realize that you are an intelligent person as well but to say that this falls within the spectrum of acceptable behavior on the part of our civil servants just sounds downright ridiculous. You contend that if people didn’t protest then they’d have no reason to catch a beat down, I contend that they had every right to be there protesting from the get go. The constitution would seem to support my side of the debate on that one. It is entirely possible that a few jerks started to run amok and do things outside of what is acceptable in terms of vandalizing private property, though I still have my doubts on who did what in that whole situation, but even then rubber bullets, LRAD and tear gas being used on American citizens in was completely unacceptable. And no, I’m not an anarchist, but I do believe that less government is much much better government. The system was put in place to protect us as citizens, not to enforce a never ending stream of bullshit legislation that has essentially turned into a lock down on personal freedom. I can’t believe that a person as educated as YOU clearly are could completely discount the possibility that acts of vandalism were committed to make the movement look misguided and dangerous. It wouldn’t be the first time now would it?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:14 am
Yada, yada, yada…there was vandalism and the beatdown happened? Is that your rebuttal? I’m sorry Baco? If people don’t protest, they won’t get a beatdown. The Constitution grants a right to protest, but a few “Jerks” started to run amok and vandalize property-then the beatdown started. Sounds to me “Head” that you’ve got my point exactly. No apology necessary. You can keep your doubts, but I firmly believe this “Don’t Start No Mess There Won’t Be No Mess.” Play the credits back after this commercial break.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Well then I guess we’re going to have to agree to disagree.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:41 am
“Yada, yada, yada…there was vandalism and the beatdown happened? Is that your rebuttal?”
No, the beatdown started and then some vandalism occurred, the source of which I am skeptical about. Even if it WAS perpetrated by protesters, a chemical, sound and rubber bullet shower was not called for.
“I’m sorry Baco?”
No, I’m sorry Baco but what you are saying sounds ridiculous. As in I’m sorry but what you are trying to say is downright moronic.
“If people don’t protest, they won’t get a beatdown. The Constitution grants a right to protest, but a few “Jerks” started to run amok and vandalize property-then the beatdown started.”
I said it is possible that a few misguided people did vandalize private property, I didn’t say it happened for sure and beside that the actions of a few, if that were the case, can’t be construed as the acts of the whole. If nobody stands up for their rights, they won’t have to worry about having them trampled? That makes no sense.
“Sounds to me “Head” that you’ve got my point exactly. No apology necessary.”
I got your point from the beginning, it’s just not a good point, I wasn’t apologizing.
“You can keep your doubts, but I firmly believe this “Don’t Start No Mess There Won’t Be No Mess.” Play the credits back after this commercial break.”
Yup, you and the rest of the unthinking majority who’ll let themselves be steamrolled in the interest of “safety”. Get a grip.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:36 am
here you go, why don’t you take a look at these dangerous protesters first hand. listen to what they have to say about what happened while they were there. watch what they were ACTUALLY doing when they were attacked, then tell me that they deserved what they got.
http://restoretherepublic.com/new-world-order/g20-battle-after-nitefall
October 5th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
As you can see LP, this isn’t my first rodeo. I know how to use the stirrups and stay on the bull for over 8 seconds. I can stay on the bull until it is hamburger, but why? You are never going to win this debate because you are dealing with speculation and I’m dealing with concrete facts and stronger emotions. How many police and military families are screaming, “Right on Baco?” I don’t care if a group of Grannies drop their panties. I want the police to beat them down. Have you seen what gravity does to an old woman’s backside and chest? I support the right to protest, but I also want the police to open up cans of “Whoopazz” for anyone protesting if the law is broken. I don’t discriminate when it comes to people being stupid. It was stupid for you to be there when some “Jerk” went against the law and the USA. You sir, are now hamburger.
October 5th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Baco, you strike me as the type of person who once had in his heart and mind the honest best interest of the people, it seems that now you’ve been through so much failure on the part of those you trusted to usher in a better future that you’ve become too jaded to get the point. The actual protesters didn’t do a damned thing to deserve what they got, there is no two ways about it. Thus far you haven’t given anything but opinion, not anything close to “concrete facts” and certainly not “stronger emotions”. It bothers me that for someone who can see so clearly things like Obama’s presidency being Bush’s third term miss the fact that we haven’t had any real change in that office in 90+ years. It’s just been the gradual progression of events leading to the police state we now live in, now that things are speeding up and the snowball effect has really taken hold that people like you step up to offer half assed conjectures and criticisms of things you claim to fully understand but still paint as far less ominous than they really are. Neither of us will ever agree on who was guilty and who was guiltless on the 24th. Clearly you are A OK with fascist assaults. I, on the other hand, abhor them. You do us all a disservice when you candy coat aspects of the truth and try to play yourself off as terribly in the know. Clearly you aren’t. In my view, you fell from that proverbial bull long before this dialogue ever opened up.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Microphone check, 1-2,1-2! Time to open up some “Whoopazz Words.” In the words of Rush Limbaugh, “The good ones make this look so easy.” Head, I think you are “Jealous.” Are you trying to check out my street credentials? I know the Freepers. I know ANSWER. I know the Religious Fringes too. I told you I made the White House a “Poet-Free Zone.” I met Rev. Jesse Jackson outside the White House after he supported Pres. Clinton on Lewinsky. I met Rev. Eugene Rivers and help him decide to reject Pres. Bush’s offer to be his “HNIC.” I’m “The Bush Fly.” How much cred can one person have? Now Let’s Rock again? It’s a fact-Jack that gravity is unkind to elderly women. It’s a fact that spurs hurt if you keep your feet in the stirrups. It’s a fact, “Don’t start no mess there won’t be no mess.” This G-20 thang is your issue and you think Anarchy is better than having the police in control? It’s a fact that you are wrong. Ask anyone in Chicago during a Black Gang Youth Riot? Beat them all and sort out the reasons why later. Figure out why they are angry later alive and well. I refuse to bury a cop upholding the Constitution afraid to shoot because you required he ask a stupid question first. Are you a peaceful protester in all this chaos? I’ve got street cred and I have you “Knocked Out.” My Mama said, “Knock You Out.” Damn, keep that as an example of what could be on the air if a Quasi-Liberal could actually get a job and keep one.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:28 am
Ok sweetheart, you just keep up the nonsensical banter, if you think that it’s working for you, we won’t tell anyone any different. You can go back to your padded room now.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:35 am
Way too many facts to be considered “Crazy.” The test for you isn’t to verify my sanity, but to investigate my facts. I am whatever I say I am. You are just jealous.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:56 am
What in the name of all things holy are you blathering about? Your comment was full of nothing but personal conjecture and an assertion that you’ve met a bunch of “important” people. How, even if I cared to, which I don’t, could I investigate your claims? I don’t even have a name other than “baco” to go on. What does any of that have to do with the topic at hand? If you’re so influential and in the know, prove it! Even then, I’ll be hard pressed to give a shit because it doesn’t change a damned thing! Street cred, you make me laugh, I’m having trouble not bursting into hysterical laughter at the thought of the name baco. “It’s a fact that you are wrong.” Wow! You got me!
October 6th, 2009 at 6:59 am
PS. Why would I be jealous of you? Do I want to be an aged hypocrite with nothing worthy of hearing to say? You discounted yourself from any real debate a long time ago, now it’s like shooting fish in a barrel and I just don’t have the stomach for “picking on the retarded kid” today so shove off.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:38 am
The difference between you and me is a simple truth. I took your criticism and used it against you. The charges that you made against me are not true they are just ugly because you couldn’t win on your ideas. Isn’t that what’s wrong with the Left vs. Right debate? When one person is Right, the one Left is left with nothing but personal insults? You had the last word and it was harsh. I can’t take what you say personally. You don’t know me. I just hope you keep writing about something else. I’m done with this story.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Ok, let’s simplify this argument. Your contention is that the police acted correctly in their preemptive beat down using tear gas, sound weapons, batons and rubber bullets against protesters in the interest of preventing potential violence. You are saying you’d rather have cops knock heads first and ask questions later. I, on the other hand, disagree completely and hold that the police must answer to US and not the other way around. Preemptive strike on the grounds of perceived threat is what allowed the Nazis to convince an entire nation to lock away Jews, Gypsies and any other undesirables, particularly political and social dissidents. You can throw in all the fancy jargon and quasi-poetic rhetoric that you like but at it’s root, this is the argument. Neither of us will back down to the other, despite the fact that on many OTHER issues we are in complete agreement. You’re getting annoying now because you seem to persist in the view that you have said anything other than the above stated argument, clearly you have not. Can we now accept that neither of us is going to back down? Ok then, let’s both walk away. This is not a Left vs. Right debate. It’s a matter of opposing view points both based on experience, knowledge and intelligence. While it is difficult for me to understand how in the world you could come to the conclusion that you did within any spectrum of true reason, I am prepared to accept that you just see things differently. Your (hopefully) final comment is completely negated by the 3 proceeding it because, although you profess to be on some moral or intellectual high ground, you have shown time and again that you will readily throw around assertions as facts without any true basis to ground them on. Please go away.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:37 am
Hope went out the window when you used the code word “Quasi-Poetic.” Maybe you do know who I really am and why I have such radical, factual, and dangerous opinions? I know too much because I did it. What I say is true and that’s a fact even if you can’t prove it. Here’s a “Quasi-Poem” to finish this. Do I fear the beatdowns from a far? I’m safe at home or driving somewhere safer in my car. Do I see the violence if I choose not to be there? No! That’s why I don’t cry for guilty jerks who never cared about my freedom.
October 19th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Put your self in the place of the police. They were given an order and they were executing the order. They have families they want to go home to and they done what was needed to make sure they went home. You just have an issue with authority iplawhead.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Welcome back to the Journal “Affable.” Please tread lightly on this one, I think I finally put him to sleep or let himself burn himself out hearing his own voice. Head doesn’t take criticism very well and he has large teeth in his pen. Your comments are always welcome by me. How long have we been doing this? Good to hear your voice in here once again. Where’s Bree?
October 21st, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Good to be back, my friend. However, it seems as if I may leaving again tonight. I had looked forward to reading your articles while I am bumming this machine, but I will only get through some. Naturally you can hold your own sir. So, I won’t be missed at all. We all got to work when somebody is willing to pay. Anyway, when I returned and saw where an article had caught Baco’s eye, I had to see. This gentleman’s (or madame’s) authority issues are comical at the most. I understand that there are times when authority needs to be questioned, take the tuskegee airmen for instance. These airmen fought WW2, took the best that Luftwaffe could throw at them, and still were denied access to the OC. They questioned authority along with others and persevered into the hall of heros. They didn’t disrupt other peoples lives or destroy property. They accomplished this through their own devices without lobbists or stopping the flow of traffic with signs, and they were fighting a war at the same time. This is just a small example of what people can do. When something is fundamentally wrong, like segregation, racism, or genocide, it simply can not stand. I wonder how head, as you call him, would welcome a firefighter come to save his family. What about if some of those same police officers, who were so terrible, stopped a mad man with a gun threatening his family while visiting pittsburg. Maybe even taking that bullet meant for his child. I know you don’t care much for me or what I believe “head” but you simply must step back and take stock of your hatred for authority. It isn’t healthy for you or your family. I can tell you from expirence, that the official men and women are not out to get you. As an MP in the army I can tell you we are the most hated individuals. That is until we are needed to perform a service. We could not just go into a bar full of servicemen and expect to be welcomed, until there was a drunken delta with a knife, then everybody loved us. God bless you all
October 21st, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Amen to everything you said. Stay safe and I’d love an address where I can send some “Clean Socks.” Spitting tobacco into the bin almost brought out the “Beast” in me. I miss you already.